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I d like to say i d never do it, but i can t really promise that. What stops me at the moment is the hope that i could eventually have a life i like in the future.

At the very least, there must be something that ll give me a glimmer of happiness somewhere down the line, statistically speaking. And that sliver of joy, no matter how brief, will be worth sticking around for.

The chances of that are probably quite low, but it s still higher than if i cut it short now.

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Thoughts on life after suicide? Interesting thread, Incognito! It is nice to see interesting topics like these being started here on HikiCulture :)

I've never really given suicide any serious thought, and having never suffered from severe depression (which you mentioned being the victim of in your opening post), I don't feel that I am emotionally qualified to talk about suicide. Sure, I've had my 'down' moments, and am occasionally filled with an overwhelming sense of melancholy - but I've always been quite an upbeat, optimistic sort of person. I like to dream, and therefore, haven't given suicide much thought because there is always some hope that I might experience something new and exciting in the future.

As for what I would like to happen after death, that isn't really something that I can decide. If we're just talking about wishful thinking though, then I'd like to be magically transported to another world (with my current memories intact) after death - maybe with death in this world just advancing me on to the next 'level' in the game.

Who knows, maybe when I breathe my last breath, I'll hear a loud voice booming "Respawning in 9...8...7...6..." ;)


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AWESOM IDEA if u ever watched/read the anime gantz wich i seriously recomend it would be awesome to go on survival missions in limbo to get a second chance


Thanks for the recommendation! I don't normally watch Anime, but I just checked this one out on Wikipedia - and it looks very interesting :)


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I d like to say i d never do it, but i can t really promise that.

my sentiments exactly. i can say now that there is no rational reason to do it, but it seems alot more attractive when youre really depressed.


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my sentiments exactly. i can say now that there is no rational reason to do it, but it seems alot more attractive when youre really depressed.


It s a highly irrational action, but when ur really depressed ur not thinking rationally and can t accurately predict ur own actions.

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I can only offer one piece of advice: Once suicide is attempted it can become like an addiction. It's much harder to keep suicidal thoughts and ideation in check. Good luck, man :maryjane


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I've thought about it before, but I can't help but wonder where my life will go. I guess the curiosity is what makes like living for when things seem to be at their worst. Also, my mother has attempted suicide a few times now, and after seeing how it affected my family, and even myself, I don't think I would ever consider it again.

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I was severely depressed and thought about suicide a lot during my late teens when I tried hard to conform to the normal society. After I stepped inside my own world the depression lifted. Suicide is unthinkable to me today.

As for life after death, my biggest fear is that there is no afterlife in any way. I've been under anesthesia a few times and it's like having a black hole in your memory. It's not like sleeping, it's more like being completely unaware of anything even subconsciously. If death is like a permanent state of anesthesia, than in a way it isn't harmful and can never bring you pain once you're dead, but it's also a terrible fate being sealed in oblivion and not having a mind. Even if you wouldn't be aware of it of course, I still view such a state of not existing as horrible. It scares me more than any terrors in real life.

I wish there was a light and a warm feeling and just something after death but logically I can't shake the thought that it would just be like being under anesthesia forever but without even a physical body.

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I really hope there's nothing. I want nothing more than to erase all the details showing that I ever existed. Nothing behind, nothing ahead.


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I don't think there's anything there (i wish i could believe there was) - but sometimes, nothing is better than something.

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I have thought of it sometimes but then I realise it would really hurt my family and friends - I haven't been getting nearly the level of such thoughts since becoming officially diagnosed with Asperger's 6 years ago. Now I know I am not simply a useless and hopeless person and whilst life hasn't always been easy since then, now I have a proper explanation for why I do things the way I do and think the way I think.

I never really wanted to die anyway but sometimes it was so frustrating trying to communicate that I just wanted to go to sleep and never wake up.


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I'm not religious (meaning I have no religion), but I believe in God, though not the same God taught to people in churches. I think that God knows people & he knows how people are feeling & what people are going through, so I think, if someone kills themselves because they're horribly depressed, they'll still go to "heaven". Depression is a disease & unfortunately, if it's not treated properly, a side effect of the disease can unfortunately, sometimes be suicide. Just as God would never deny a person who dies from cancer entrance to "heaven", I believe he wouldn't deny someone who dies from the side effects of a deep depression entrance, either. However, if someone kills themselves for some selfish reason, such as revenge, or "wait until I'm gone, then they'll see what life's like without me" type stuff, I think it's different. I think then, they're just reborn & immediately come back here to basically repeat the same life they just gave up. Those are just my opinions, though. They could be totally false, for all I know, but they're what I believe.

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It's really a pity that there is no experiment where a scientist could die and come back after some hours to tell us what the "death world" looks like. :D

Well, I think maybe after I'm dead I'll maybe going back there where I came. I mean where was I before my birth? I don't have any memories about it and so I'll maybe lose my memories and just "sleep like in a coma". Though I like to read about near-death experiences with the light at the end of the tunnel stuff... they're fasciniating.

But if there is a real death world where we could "live" on... then I'm afraid because I don't know what to expect. Maybe there is even a "society" again and I have to go work again... no so-called resting at all. This thought is quite depressing... hmm... :(

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It's really a pity that there is no experiment where a scientist could die and come back after some hours to tell us what the "death world" looks like. :D

Well, I think maybe after I'm dead I'll maybe going back there where I came. I mean where was I before my birth? I don't have any memories about it and so I'll maybe lose my memories and just "sleep like in a coma". Though I like to read about near-death experiences with the light at the end of the tunnel stuff... they're fasciniating.

But if there is a real death world where we could "live" on... then I'm afraid because I don't know what to expect. Maybe there is even a "society" again and I have to go work again... no so-called resting at all. This thought is quite depressing... hmm... :(

I saw a documentary before, maybe on the Discovery Channel (possibly) back when I was a teenager where scientists induced a persons brain into a death like state by putting them inside this ball-shaped thing that moved around really fast, (fast enough so that it put their brain into a death like state). The scientists monitored the brain activity of the person through a bunch of electrodes they put all over his body. The way the experiment went, was that the scientists were able to undo the death like state the person was in. I don't remember their results, but I do remember him saying that after he lost consciousness, he was suddenly faced with all kinds of tiny, miniature people ripping & eating at his skin & tearing it off. He felt & saw that until the scientists brought him out of the "death." He said he thought he went to hell. I think he just went into psychosis lol. I wish I knew the name of it, it might even be on YouTube & I'm sure I'm wrong about certain things, but that's basically it.

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...but I do remember him saying that after he lost consciousness, he was suddenly faced with all kinds of tiny, miniature people ripping & eating at his skin & tearing it off. He felt & saw that until the scientists brought him out of the "death." He said he thought he went to hell. I think he just went into psychosis lol. I wish I knew the name of it, it might even be on YouTube & I'm sure I'm wrong about certain things, but that's basically it.


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Yeah, I'm sure his brain was playing him tricks. Or those little monsters are the watchers of death, trying to punish him for not real "dying". :p

But this experiment seems quite interesting...

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...but I do remember him saying that after he lost consciousness, he was suddenly faced with all kinds of tiny, miniature people ripping & eating at his skin & tearing it off. He felt & saw that until the scientists brought him out of the "death." He said he thought he went to hell. I think he just went into psychosis lol. I wish I knew the name of it, it might even be on YouTube & I'm sure I'm wrong about certain things, but that's basically it.


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Yeah, I'm sure his brain was playing him tricks. Or those little monsters are the watchers of death, trying to punish him for not real "dying". :p

But this experiment seems quite interesting...

It really was, it was a good documentary. The guy became super-religious afterward & tried to do everything "right" so that when he really died, he wouldn't have to face those little guys in hell again lol.

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I've thought about it before, but I can't help but wonder where my life will go. I guess the curiosity is what makes like living for when things seem to be at their worst.



I couldn't agree more... I mean I literally think about suicide on a daily bases but curiosity is sometimes enough to keep me moving forward.

And from a philosophical perspective, life itself is so unique and mysterious that just pondering our existence can feed our curiosity enough

to last our entire lives... if we knew all the answers to our existence it would be very boring.


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The only thing keeping me away from suicide is not knowing what comes AFTER it. If I knew, then maybe I'd be dead already.

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I'm the same as Norikon. If I could be guaranteed that the endless sleep ahead is dreamless I would happily go under.

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"After your death, you will be what you were before your birth" -Arthor Schopenhauer

If you don't remember any existence or experiences before your birth it's only logical to think that you'll return to that.

Even if you believe in ever-present souls... then that would mean your soul has always existed... but we have no recollection

of our souls before we were born, so there's no reason to think our neurological based consciousness and matter-based reality

could alter the soul, which dwells within a plain completely free of space time... so soul or no soul it seems to me that everything

after we die will mirror everything before we lived, which was basically a void of nothing for me.

This is why suicide is a constant battle for me... if the average person lives their life based on the hope that one day they will

receive some type of reward or eternal peaceful existence for toughing this life out... then what's keeping someone like me here???

I love questioning and pondering life (like I said a minute ago)... but I'm not sure if that curiosity is going to be enough.


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In all honestly I'm expecting it to consist of absolute nothingness. Or more accurately, everything that we are as humans and as individuals immediately ceases to be.
To say that just our awareness is missing would be like comparing life after death to that of a non-sentient life form, in that it has no awareness but still a purpose and innate instinct of what it has to do.

While that may be what I'm 'expecting', what I'm hoping for is completely different. My ideal 'afterlife' is akin to an everlasting lucid dream.

Also i chose to use the word 'death' rather than 'suicide' because i feel that there is no difference in the end result, regardless of the method that you use to reach it.


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I find myself constantly overawed by the sheer strangeness and poignancy of actually existing and I wish to continue existing so that I can contemplate the strangeness and poignancy of it all; however, the pressures of social existence, the revulsion I feel at the banality of everyday human interaction, the gnawing terror that lurking just around the corner is some experience that will be either psychologically or physically excruciating, these things make me simply want to sink down and sleep forever.

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I'm really sorry guys :confused ... I didn't mean to go off on a tangent about my beliefs and life issues... I don't know why I feel the need to do that sometimes :dunno


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@Yuki-ism: As far as I can tell, you don't have anything to apologize for. It didn't seem to me that you were going off a tangent about your beliefs and issues. Rather, it seemed to me that you were simply expressing your beliefs and issues. And that's what these forums are: a place for expression and dialogue.

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Dying sucks.

My solace is that despite my rather minimal interaction with others I don't think of me and other people as completely separate things. I don't know anybody who is like me in every aspect, but I do know some people who share my politics, some people who share my humour, some people who share my depression etc. And given a world population of several billion people there are always some people around who are like me in more than one aspect. So I don't view my death as an event that will change the amount of dreihänderness in the world to 0%.

Death can eat a bowl of dicks. :cheers


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