Would possibly be true if people would instantly post anything, but another "psychological imperative" would be to not put a meaningless thing in a thread named "success forum" there's also the thing that whatever we post there will be meaningful to us, that alone i think already makes it worth it (since i don't think something like stepping on a cokcroach jar will be meaningful to someone, unless they had a crippling fear of cockcroaches) Your murder example is good actually, many people are very self-conscious of the things they say/post online or in society (specially on a forum such as this) I don't think anyone in here will tell you murder is a good thing, so no, you can't cheerlead anything.



On the bolded part, why? true that it might not be as fulfilling as interacting with someone who's in front of you, but that is similar to saying that the coffee in itself is unimportant and that the texture of the cup is what gives the coffee it's quality and taste, and i'm a bit puzzled on why you say that internet praise (from a place like HC, i would maybe understand if it were youtube or 4chan) would be "hollow", here we aren't internet strangers, we're friends. Hearing support from people wether on or offline can help us in realizing something on ourselves (that internal realization), it's like... Ok, imagine that there is a kid who is always doing whatever they tell him to do, and he hates the things they tell him to do and he feels and honestly thinks that all the people he knows (and probably the world) are manipulative bastards that don't care about him and just want to use or hurt him. Then someone kindly points out that they never really forced him and he could have said "no" if he truly hated it so much, no one was going to force him, he had a choice. That "external prodding" enabled his "internal realization", when he do what he proposes himself to do and what his friends/family (maybe because they know that's what he wants to do) encourage him to do (for example "going out") it wouldn't be a fragile process. And i don't think that the praise would stop someone from doing that or not, but it sure as hell is going to help. And on the underlined part, please don't take this at wrong, but you seem to be underestimating what praise and approval can be for someone, or overstimating "strong people" or people who are unnafected by what others say.



That success thread would not be only posted by hikis, many people on here are not hikikomoris and some even not too reclusives.

And on the part of "admin or trusted mod authentic if a person..." it would be great and appropiate if we were a branch of the CIA or something, those authentication measure are not exactly member friendly, and i don't think many people here would want to do that sort of thing, why should we after all?

I'm deeply sorry for having gotten so... overwhelmed? about this, i don't know why i answered in such a strong manner, i'm sorry, i really am.

I'm a writer, and as much as i love to dream, i also respect reality, and i must consider it and learn from it, that makes my dreams stronger. As much as i dream, i don't find reality totally boring, i think it's just that some people don't know how to see the magic or the dreams that lay all around us in the world. And even without the internet i still would have been isolated in my geographic nexus, because no matter my need for contact, i still just don't feel anything in common with the people i see IRL, it's as if i can't talk about things like literature or films or human intimacy or philosophy with people from HC i would eventually do it with people from real life, instead i wouldn't do it with anyone at all and i wouldn't have no one to talk to about these things. I know this because before i met HC that is what actually happened (and i think i'm not the only one for whom this would apply), i think you have quite a Black & White thinking of these things.



I think that has more to do with the fact that, well i picture the thread as that they announce they're gonna get married, naturally they're very happy, probably some people congratulates them, and then someone posts "Hey man stop being so unrealistic, you're totally gonna end up divorced, didn't you see how is your country?" or something like that, i agree it might not have been the best thing to delete it, but i think i can see why they deleted it.



on the "what does that mean?" i think you already know what i think. But i seriously can't see the reasoning behind the second phrase, i'm pretty sure you don't consider the people that post online to just be a figment of our imagination as if they were Tyler Durden or something.



Don't want to be mean but, i love that you started this post with "What anyone considers a success being a success is a very solipsist and immature criteria." And then end it with saying that being reclusive is unrealistic and damaging (the opposite of success) and that you shouldn't depend on these enablers, isn't that a very solipsistic and inmature criteria?

I wonder if i'm getting way too zealoty for people in here, sorry.

I Recognize that sadly a lot of people are not very interested in deeper things, but the thing i take some issue with (and i'm not blind enough as to not see that it also hits me emotionally) is that you seem to assume that absolutely everyone in society is like this, i don't know if that is correct, but that is how i took it, sorry if i'm wrong.

With the underlined part, you mean that people never seek what they should be seeking in life, what is truly important? If that is the case, then i must say that my opinion is that i'm not sure if any of us can ever get to an omniscient state to truly know with 100% certainty what is important, we can't be telling people what is important or not because i don't know if we can ever know that for full ourselves, we shouldn't force other people (or even comptentiously look down at their lives without consideration, i do it too, but i shouldn't). We just grope in the shadows with that tiny ruler that is our knowledge and the "truths that are given by others"



What i observed is that in real life a lot of people are like that. But also a great deal of people are very smart and intellectual and deep, some of them abysmally more than you or me. How you got "Everyone is foolish and media-spooned and i'm the only awakened, "The last man"" is... Baffling to me, to say the least.



My father is a contradiction of that, my sister is a contradiction of that, my neighborhood friend is a contradiction of that, absolutely all of the friends of my father are a contradiction of that, as well as basically all of my sister's friends



Please don't take this at wrong but that is what i was referring to with black and white thinking, i believe that a great deal of life is finding a balance, this is no exception. And why change their if we should accept them? Because humans are beings of constant grow, you don't believe what you believed when you were seven. And also, there's the thing that friends support each other, both by being emotionally supportive and by sometimes criticizing, always of course in a considerate manner, that doesn't mean that they should never be harsh or strong tough i think (well, not all friends do that, but ideally)



I must confess i love your ability to read other people's minds. But i can't really say i care about the success forum, so i guess your mind-reading machine must be a bit faulty. Also, i apologize on the marriage thing, with this new information i can see why you commented that, and i think i must say that it was reasonable on your part



I'm sorry for sounding like a broken record, but i confess i'm puzzled by this, i think everyone here is mature enough as to hear things that might displease them (without intentionally being rude of course, but one shouldn't twist or hide reality) I must say that you do have a good point on the attention seeking
part, but i'm not too sure if that should be enough reason to not create this (if people wanted it)



I think the main thing over which we're crashing over here is that i believe you think the underlined part necessarily takes out the bolded part, which as i've already said i don't think is the case.



I always though this was going to be a thread? i think general would be appropiate.

A bit off-topic, but i'm wondering if there is something obvious or stupid i'm not seeing here? not being rethoric or sarcastic, i'm really wondering .