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Senmee
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 It was a Hoax
I was wondering what sort of famous hoaxes you've heard about. My brother elicited my interest in this topic, and I thought I would share. I don't really mean popular culture, though I guess if there is one that struck you, this IS posted in "Other" interests. But here's a few interesting ones: Piltdown Man: Famous archaeological hoax often used (unjustifiably, in my opinion) to bolster Creationist arguments against evolution. Ern Malley: Poetry hoax. I find it interesting because even though the content of the poems themselves were gibberish, their PURPOSE was to expose the absurdity of modernist poetry, which makes them legitimate works of art, IMO. Disumbrationism: A contrived art movement that consisted of doodles on paper plates and some very...unique...paintings of women. The movement was, of course, praised by the artistic community until the hoax was revealed.  And the most telling one of all.... The Sokal Affair, a hoax by a physics professor intended to reveal the weaknesses of the peer review system and cultural studies. Transgressing the Boundaries.What are your opinions on these? Are they fraud? Art? What are your favorite hoaxes?
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- "Carta a una señorita en París," Julio Cortázar
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LordTricky
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 |  |  |  | Quote: My Kid Could Paint That Summary Marla's father, an amateur painter, describes how Marla watches him paint, wants to help, and is given her own canvas and supplies. A friend asks to hang Marla's pictures in his coffee shop and is surprised when people ask to buy them. A local newspaper reporter, Elizabeth Cohen, writes a piece about Marla, after first asking her parents if they really want her to do so. Cohen's story is picked up by the New York Times, and Marla becomes a media celebrity, with appearances on television and shows at galleries in New York and Los Angeles. Sales of her work earn over $300,000. The tone of the documentary turns with a scene of Marla's parents watching a February 2005 report by CBS News' 60 Minutes II that questions whether Marla painted the works attributed to her. 60 Minutes enlisted the help of Ellen Winner, a child psychologist who studies cognition in the arts and gifted children. Seeing video images of some of the paintings attributed to Marla, Winner initially reacts positively, stating: "It's absolutely beautiful. You could slip it into the Museum of Modern Art and absolutely get away with it." The 60 Minutes reporter, Charlie Rose, then shows Winner what he describes as "50 minutes of videotape shot by us and by Marla's parents." After seeing this footage, Winner states: "This is eye-opening to me, to see her actually painting." Rose asks her how this is "eye-opening." Winner responds: "Because she's not doing anything that a normal child wouldn't do. She's just kind of slowly pushing the paint around." Rose then states that after "our interview," the Olmsteads agreed to permit CBS crews to set-up a hidden camera in their home to tape their daughter painting a single piece in five hours over the course of a month. When Winner reviewed the tapes, the psychologist said, "I saw no evidence that she was a child prodigy in painting. I saw a normal, charming, adorable child painting the way preschool children paint, except that she had a coach that kept her going." Winner also indicated that the painting created before CBS's hidden camera looked "less polished than some of Marla's previous works." Asked to explain the difference, Winner states: "I can only speculate. I don't see Marla as having made, or at least completed, the more polished looking paintings, because they look like a different painter. Either somebody else painted them start to finish, or somebody else doctored them up. Or, Marla just miraculously paints in a completely different way than we see on her home video."[1] Marla's parents film her creating a second work, Ocean, but Bar-Lev is not fully convinced. A couple are shown considering the purchase of Ocean. The woman complains that Ocean does not look like the other works by Marla. They buy it anyway. In a slide show, Bar-Lev compares Ocean with the 60 Minutes piece and then with several other works attributed to Marla. Viewers are left to make their own judgments. The film also raises questions about the nature of art, especially abstract expressionism, the media's habit of building up the subject of a story and then tearing the subject down in its insatiable need to fill space; and the nature of the documentary process. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Kid_Could_Paint_That |  |  |  |  |
I watched this documentary and found it very fascinating how much our perception of what is art is based entirely on the context(the story behind it). Reminded me of your paper plates.
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Senmee
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I think I've heard of that one, but I never saw it. Is it any good?
Your being reminded further reminds me of those pictures painted by elephants.
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"Entonces está el amanecer y una fría soledad en la que caben la alegría, los recuerdos, usted y acaso tantos más. Está este balcón sobre Suipacha lleno de alba, los primeros sonidos de la ciudad. No creo que les sea difícil juntar once conejitos salpicados sobre los adoquines, tal vez ni se fijen en ellos, atareados con el otro cuerpo que conviene llevarse pronto, antes de que pasen los primeros colegiales."
- "Carta a una señorita en París," Julio Cortázar
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LordTricky
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Yes I'd definitely recommend it. It is one of the few documentaries where the film-maker actually created an unbiased film. Also gives a revealing look at multiple, seemingly unrelated things: the modern art world, how artists think, how art collectors think, how major media works, pressures of being a child prodigy, parents of a famous toddler, etc.
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XBlacky
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The Piltdown Man memorial stonehehe.
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Senmee
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Well the problem with Sokal was that the people who published it had very low standards....eh, I know that was worded ambiguously.
OMG, that well to hell hoax was hilarious. That audio recording is definitely creepy, though. :P Thanks for sharing that one. Maybe instead of a molten core which helps keep the earth turning, the damned are actually being forced to run on a giant hades hamster wheel for all eternity....
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"Entonces está el amanecer y una fría soledad en la que caben la alegría, los recuerdos, usted y acaso tantos más. Está este balcón sobre Suipacha lleno de alba, los primeros sonidos de la ciudad. No creo que les sea difícil juntar once conejitos salpicados sobre los adoquines, tal vez ni se fijen en ellos, atareados con el otro cuerpo que conviene llevarse pronto, antes de que pasen los primeros colegiales."
- "Carta a una señorita en París," Julio Cortázar
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Nobody mention The Moon Landing yet? I'm not sure if I believe it was a hoax, but there are a few points in the arguement of it being fake that are quite convincing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landi ... y_theories
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Senmee
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I think all those arguments have been debunked already. But that made me wanna go watch this:
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"Entonces está el amanecer y una fría soledad en la que caben la alegría, los recuerdos, usted y acaso tantos más. Está este balcón sobre Suipacha lleno de alba, los primeros sonidos de la ciudad. No creo que les sea difícil juntar once conejitos salpicados sobre los adoquines, tal vez ni se fijen en ellos, atareados con el otro cuerpo que conviene llevarse pronto, antes de que pasen los primeros colegiales."
- "Carta a una señorita en París," Julio Cortázar
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LordTricky
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Cougars in Southern Wisconsin? The Fake Story: These photos have been circulating via email for quite some time often with the subject line of "Honey, will you start the car..." Numerous locational claims have been made with one claiming the photos being taken in Michigan, off G-12 Road in the Upper Peninsula while another states they are from Idaho. However, in one photograph (top, upper left), a Colorado license plate is clearly visible on the truck. The Real Story: While the real story remains a mystery, these cats in the photos are not from the Midwest. It is highly probable they are from Colorado as evidenced by the license plate on the white truck.
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Mask Identity
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outside of the ones mentioned already i just can think of this one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yale_student_abortion_art_controversyi truly despise the world of "high" art. it's a total fucking joke that something like this could be seen as anything but attention whore nonsense. the world of high art is an emperor who has no clothes.
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