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Schizoid personality disorder (SPD) is a personality disorder characterized by a lack of interest in social relationships, a tendency towards a solitary lifestyle, secretiveness, and emotional coldness. There is increased prevalence of the disorder in families with schizophrenia. SPD is not the same as schizophrenia, although they share some similar characteristics such as detachment or blunted affect.
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The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders fourth edition, DSM IV-TR, a widely used manual for diagnosing mental disorders, defines schizoid personality disorder (in Axis II Cluster A) as:

A. A pervasive pattern of detachment from social relationships and a restricted range of expression of emotions in interpersonal settings, beginning by early adulthood (age eighteen or older) and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by four (or more) of the following:

1. neither desires nor enjoys close relationships, including being part of a family
2. almost always chooses solitary activities
3. has little, if any, interest in having sexual experiences with another person
4. takes pleasure in few, if any, activities
5. lacks close friends or confidants other than first-degree relatives
6. appears indifferent to the praise or criticism of others
7. shows emotional coldness, detachment, or flattened affect

B. Does not occur exclusively during the course of schizophrenia, a mood disorder with psychotic features, another psychotic disorder, or a pervasive developmental disorder and is not due to the direct physiological effects of a general medical condition.

It is a requirement of DSM-IV that a diagnosis of any specific personality disorder also satisfies a set of general personality disorder criteria.
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It is an interesting PD that, in my opinion, seems to be the closest western [psychological] equivalent of your stereotypical hikikomori.
It's kind of pointless to ask if anyone here has it, as a very small percentage of the populous actually do. It is one of those disorders that is often misdiagnosed. So even if you really do have, you were probably diagnosed with Aspergers Syndrome, Avoidant Personality Disorder, or even Schizotypal Personality Disorder.
Regardless, I thought it was a very interesting PD to talk about so I thought I'd ask if anyone here has it or wants to talk about it :)

One thing I have found interesting between the "average" hikikomori and schizoid is that neither wish for help. I think that is incorrect for both. I think most would like help but just do not express any desire. In fact, if they/we express anything, it's the exact opposite. They misunderstand fear for refusal.

Sometimes I wish for help (in my mind only), other times I'm too comfortable in my sanctuary to have any desire for such change.

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I fit the criteria as well. It seems as if i've been through both stages of schizoid; overt and covert:
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As i became more active on a schizoid board I soon realized it was almost like a competition to see who was "most schizoid". I thought to myself, if this is what being a schizoid is about then I must not be one.
To this day I'm unsure what I am; be it schizoid, schizotypal, aspergers, or simple Social Anxiety Disorder gone horribly awry. I really don't care. However, one thing I've realized is a lot of my unhappiness/mental instabilities are most likely due to my hikikomori lifestyle. Why I became one to begin with is a case of its own, but this increasing detachment from reality, paranoia, social dysfunction, and more, is most probably a direct result of going against my human nature; being a social and active creature.
I'm pretty certain a lot of my current mental problems would of never escalated this far if I had learned to be more social and less... well less hikikomori.

SV22: let me know if you become "officially" diagnosed as having Schizoid Personality Disorder or not, I'm kind of curious.
ALSO! I 've got very curious question i'd like you to ask your psychiatrist. Ask them if they believe prescribing someone with Schizoid PD an ADD/ADHD medication would help them to fantasize less and focus more on reality. I've been wondering this for some time.

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Really... nobody relates to this in any way?

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I was diagnosed as this by my therapist several years ago back when I was a "true believer". Now I know all of psychiatry is a scam, if they help people it is by accident not by methodology(they don't have any proper ones anyway). Basically they create fake ontological profiles that can encompass a small range of human behavior, out of the total range. Then they try to pidgeon hole people into these ontologies which only exist because their profession created them! They do this by saying your "this behavior profile we invented" or "that profile of behavior we invented".

If you notice most general practice doctors don't spend much time with you. You will spend more time in the waiting room, then seen by a nurse or assitant, then waiting still more till the doctor comes. Also often enough, they will see you for a bit, leave again and come right back, even if there is not another patient. Part of that waiting is because doctors have to look up or double check their reference libraries. They don't want you to see or partake in this process because you will realize that their field will always have a "woo woo" factor, it is never a concrete and established scientific process. Now where this gets to topic... My therapist when she was diagnosing me, actually made me part of the process by showing she was gonna narrow me down to several possibilities, foremost among them schizoid.

What you saw in that forum, cface, is that the whole modern mental health field is a negative process for its victims. Basically when you are diagnosed you say to yourself, "I am X, I must act X." It gives you a role to play in life, like you are some actor casted by mental health professionals into mockery of what was your life per-diagnoses, instead of a free artist able to create your own canvas.


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Post Re: Schizoid Personality Disorder
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I fit the criteria as well. It seems as if i've been through both stages of schizoid; overt and covert:
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overt and covert traits exist at once in the individual, they aren't mutually exclusive. The overt traits are the ones made intentionally apparent to observers and the covert traits are the things the schizoid individual keeps to him/herself but may reveal themselves subtly or in talks with therapists.

I share Thrasymachus' cynicism to an extent but not wholeheartedly.

I have spent some time with identified schizoids on forums but I got bored of them easily. I'm not sure I agree with you when you say 'most would like help'. I don't see my views as particularly problematic.

I saw a neurologist yesterday and the conversation sort of went like this.

Him: How often do you see friends?
Me: ummm... hardly ever these days
Him: Do you have a best friend? When did you last see them?
Me: Uhh sorta. I think I saw him sometime last year.
Him: Why don't you socialize more?
Me: Idk. Just don't really feel like it. I never feel motivated to go out.
Him: Is there any fear?
Me: No.
Him: So you're just not interested?
Me: Yes.
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[further on in the convo]
Him: I think you are just lacking in confidence. You're at an exciting age where you can get to meet people from all over the world, bla bla.
Me: ... lol

Bit of a facepalm moment imo.

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I'm a recluse but not a schizoid.

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Post Re: Schizoid Personality Disorder
Not a disorder, it's a personality type. There are problems to go with it but that goes for every personality at its extremity.

I was told that I'm either a 21st century schizoid man or I'm schizotypal. I don't buy any of it.


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Post Re: Schizoid Personality Disorder
I lack a lot of the covert criteria in personal relations and sexual, but other than that, I have very strong traits of SPD. Per current criteria you can't have AS and SPD, but not everyone agrees about that. Psychiatrist Sula Wolff advocated that SPD and AS should be merged to one diagnosis.

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Post Re: Schizoid Personality Disorder
I wasn't diagnosed with this, but from what I read in the quoted text it describes me pretty well. "Schizoid personality disorder (SPD) is a personality disorder characterized by a lack of interest in social relationships, a tendency towards a solitary lifestyle, secretiveness, and emotional coldness." I definitely have a lack of interest in social relationships. I have zero friends and I'm not interested in having friends, or a girlfriend. I also have a solitary lifestyle. I spend almost 24/7 inside and only talk to my dad when he asks me a question.

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Post Re: Schizoid Personality Disorder
Jester wrote:
Cface wrote:
I fit the criteria as well. It seems as if i've been through both stages of schizoid; overt and covert:
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overt and covert traits exist at once in the individual, they aren't mutually exclusive. The overt traits are the ones made intentionally apparent to observers and the covert traits are the things the schizoid individual keeps to him/herself but may reveal themselves subtly or in talks with therapists.

I share Thrasymachus' cynicism to an extent but not wholeheartedly.

I have spent some time with identified schizoids on forums but I got bored of them easily. I'm not sure I agree with you when you say 'most would like help'. I don't see my views as particularly problematic.

I saw a neurologist yesterday and the conversation sort of went like this.

Him: How often do you see friends?
Me: ummm... hardly ever these days
Him: Do you have a best friend? When did you last see them?
Me: Uhh sorta. I think I saw him sometime last year.
Him: Why don't you socialize more?
Me: Idk. Just don't really feel like it. I never feel motivated to go out.
Him: Is there any fear?
Me: No.
Him: So you're just not interested?
Me: Yes.
...
[further on in the convo]
Him: I think you are just lacking in confidence. You're at an exciting age where you can get to meet people from all over the world, bla bla.
Me: ... lol

Bit of a facepalm moment imo.

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Sometimes I wish I'd have more of it.

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Post Re: Schizoid Personality Disorder
jezabel wrote:
Sometimes I wish I'd have more of it.

Try harder to not try at all.

The quote in my sig is actually Ernst Kretschmer's not very flattering description of a schizoid.

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I think pretty much all of this personality type/disorder stuff is BS. I don't see any of it as being any different from any other type of group creation or need for belonging. "Hey, I'm schizoid/autistic/ugly/pretty/fat/skinny/stupid/smart/quiet/loud/introverted/extroverted/etc and you are, too! We are so cool. Let's hang out!" Fuck it all. I need more coffee.


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I think pretty much all of this personality type/disorder stuff is BS. I don't see any of it as being any different from any other type of group creation or need for belonging. "Hey, I'm schizoid/autistic/ugly/pretty/fat/skinny/stupid/smart/quiet/loud/introverted/extroverted/etc and you are, too! We are so cool. Let's hang out!" Fuck it all. I need more coffee.

I'm a toad. Is there anyone else here who is a toad too? Let's hang out and do things toads do! :nerd

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Post Re: Schizoid Personality Disorder
Gavrilo Princip wrote:
jezabel wrote:
Sometimes I wish I'd have more of it.

Try harder to not try at all.

The quote in my sig is actually Ernst Kretschmer's not very flattering description of a schizoid.

Your signature makes me smile because of my name. :crazy

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